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Having studied other young market rallies, I know that many have a similar look and feel. So I’ve been studying the NASDAQ chart from October 2010 as a possible historical precedent for the market’s current action. Unlike a court of law, I never base decisions solely on a precedent, but history can sometimes provide a useful context for current market behavior that supports or calls into question my market interpretation.
In September 2010 we had just emerged from a four-month market correction that contained several tempting rally attempts that ultimately failed. So after being fooled three times, many investors were reluctant to re-enter, and volume was pretty light. Four weeks into the rally (October 2010), it was clear that the rally was much more convincing than what we were given previously, and many leading stocks were breaking out.
I now find myself in a similar situation: lightly invested after a nice four week run. I am currently 26% invested, but given the subtle strength of the market, I wish I were invested 10% more. I would simply add 10% here, but I know the market tends to pull in after a strong move up that lasts several weeks. So I turn to the precedent for guidance, and it gives me some optimism. In 2010, the market was so strong it stuttered only slightly before continuing to run for another four weeks. So while my gut tells me a pullback may be in the cards, I shouldn’t let that stop me from buying because this market could be so strong, no pullback materializes.
I should mention that precedents work really well, until they don’t. So when the market begins to deviate from the precedent, I will no longer use it. If we get hit with negative news and the market reverses direction, for example, all bets are off.
Another lesson from this precedent is that investors can’t stand still when the market environment changes. Don’t let market weakness affect you after it is over. Currently there are 40-50 stocks out there with decent-looking setups to go long. The market action has been constructive, and we haven’t seen significant distribution. So I’m looking to wade in deeper. If you go back and read my last blog, you can get an idea for how I’m doing that. I’m still being disciplined and precise with my entries and keeping my expectations realistic. Patience is big here.
One last lesson: Notice that those who began buying late or adding shares late (after mid-October 2010) most likely got caught in the November pullback. So the key is to increase your percent invested by purchasing stocks that are just now beginning to break out or pulling back into support. While wading in, it is most important to avoid extended stocks and keep that average cost low. “Defense first” is a great mantra to invest by, but you can still take some shots and get some points on the board.
Best Returns,
Scott O’Neil
President, MarketSmith Incorporated
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Hi Scott, Thanks for the analysis. Did 2010 have many more stocks exhibit significant power coming out of bases immediately before, upon and after the FTD and showing follow thru thereafter? Does the lack of such power, if you see it as evident, play in to such precedence? Does it imply anything about the rally?
Thanks for continuing to share your portfolio management process as it happens - very helpful.
Best Regards,
Greg Lawson
@mrinkey The power on individual stock breakouts is one big difference between the two. I still like the precedent, but I find myself buying stocks much less aggressively than I was in 2010. Here’s how/why: community.marketsmith.com/.../9495.aspx
Thats for sharing your perspective with us, having only been investing for 3 years, I wasn't really sure if this qualified as a new bull market or was considered to be an uptrend in the previous run that started in 09. Thanks for the guidence.
Doug Lang
Does it concern you at all that the leading stocks to be lagging the broader market somewhat during the first part of the rally? I'm using the IBD85 as a reference, and its RS line has been declining since September of last year. If this rally is going ot work, I would expect this trend to reverse soon as money flows into growth stocks. Is this a result of sector rotation, and the fact that some of the defensive sectors that made up a higher percentage of the IBD index from the end of last year are starting to be replaced by more growth names? Similiar to the lack of strenght in the IBD85, most of the breakouts I'm tracking in the top 20 stocks or so are up only 0-10% since breaking out or since the FTD, and largely have not outperformed the major indexes yet. I looked back at the IBD85 to 2003, and the only other market rally where the IBD85 lagged the broader stock market was in 2009, when it lagged from March-September. Many "to-be" growth leaders where still coming off lows and deep correctoins, and weren't picked up in the IBD indexes until months after the rally started when their RS recovered and they formed bases. Similar to 2009, most of the stocks that have made the biggest gains in this rally are stocks coming off the lows(LULU for example) and forming the right side of bases, similar to what happened in 2009, and these stocks aren't always reflected in the IBD85, etc. The best bull markets for CANSLIM investors are when the leaders are outperforming, so I'm looking for the RS on the IBD85 index to turn up, and am curious on your thoughts on this Scott, or anyone elses.
Does it concern you at all that the leading stocks to be lagging the broader market somewhat during the first part of the rally? I'm using the IBD85 as a reference, and its RS line has been declining since September of last year. If this rally is going ot work, I would expect this trend to reverse soon as money flows into growth stocks. Is this a result of sector rotation, and the fact that some of the defensive sectors that made up a higher percentage of the IBD index from the end of last year are starting to be replaced by more growth names? Similiar to the lack of strenght in the IBD85, most of the breakouts I'm tracking in the top 20 stocks or so are up only 0-10% since breaking out or since the FTD, and largely have not outperformed the major indexes yet. I looked back at the IBD85 to 2003, and the only other market rally where the IBD85 lagged the broader stock market was in 2009, when it lagged from March-September. Many "to-be" growth leaders where still coming off lows and deep correctoins, and weren't picked up in the IBD indexes until months after the rally started when their RS recovered and they formed bases. Similar to 2009, most of the stocks that have made the biggest gains in this rally are stocks coming off the lows(LULU for example) and forming the right side of bases, similar to what happened in 2009, and these stocks aren't always reflected in the IBD85, etc. The best bull markets for CANSLIM investors are when the leaders are outperforming, so I'm looking for the RS on the IBD85 index to turn up, and am curious on your thoughts on this Scott, or anyone else.
great blog scott......this is a very interestting market....
best regards,
travis
Scott, Thanks, as always, for the insightful posts. I found solace in the fact that you, lke me, were tip-toeing back into this current rally. I found the lack of clear individual stock leadership, coupled with the low volume in general and lack of $$ flows back into equities, as well as, the persistence of "leadership" by utilities and other defensive sectors, concerning. By reviewing my past trades and non-trades, I have seen that I may be battling some lingering emotional baggage (FEAR) from the '07-08 correction from which I thought I was free. My new found patience and improved preservation of capital skills, I attribute to you and the IBD/MS community. Your posts are greatly appreciated by us all.
To MS &/or power_steve_c: How do you review the IBD 85 (or other proprietary reports like IBD 50, New America, etc...) history? I cannot find a way to visualize them graphhically or review them historically. Thanks in advance. Brad
Brad- under the lists section- if you expand markets/197 industry groups, then market indexes there are several IBD indices where you can pull up a chart. Here are the symbols 85/85 is 0IBD8, Big Cap 20 is 0ib2i, mutual fund index is 0muti and new america is 0na6m. I dont see one for the ibd 50
Steve,
Thanks very much! I was using the lists under "Reports" > Stocks" and could see the individual stocks withoiut the charts. Thanks again! Brad